The diameter of both bell rims is 4 3/4". These trumpets are both 18 3/4" from bell rim to bell curve, but at 19 7/8" to the end of the receiver, the earlier is 1/4" longer. The last image below is a page from a circa 1938 Olds catalog that shows a Super Olds trumpet with the earlier style second valve slide, braces and wide tone ring. This is something that I'll have to start looking for, but a quick look through all my older Olds trumpets finds them all to be seamless. Besson and Benge trumpets had seamed mouthpipes until the 1950s and I haven't seen this in any other Olds trumpet. Interestingly, this is the same large bore size used by Bach and seemingly used only for a very short time by Olds in trumpets, although continued in the Super cornets longer.Īnother difference was very surprising to me: the mouthpipe on the earlier Super has a seam, being made from sheet metal rather than a seamless tube. 460" in the later Supers and most other trumpets made by Olds. Also, the bore is slightly larger in the earliest Super trumpets, at. This is much like the large bore Martin Imperial and Committee model bells in character. The bells were made on two different mandrels, the earlier is smaller through most of the taper, but flares larger through the last five inches to the rim. E.I've found three additional differences that aren't easily seen. After Olds and Reynolds were purchased by Norlin Music (formerly Chicago Music Instrument) they had other established manufacturers produce their Woodwind line in the early 70's (i.e. Olds & Reynolds - A variety of model names were used for brasswind of this company such as: Recording, Special, Super, Opera, and their most successful student model Ambassador. Olds and Son 1931 - 1950 - Frank Ernest Olds started making small bore trombones in the first quarter of the century, and in 1931 was joined by his son Reginald Olds. It still plays well, valve action excellent with original springs, good tonality, easy-to-blow (.460 bore), but finish down to the raw brass.į.
This was the first horn I purchased with my own money after high school. 58999 made in Fullerton, Ca factory in 1951.
The following information was provided by Don Olmsted: I have an Ambassador model, Serial No. (*) These serial numbers were provided by Bill Bamberg
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